Ep 138 Dissecting the National Cyber Threat Assessment (NCTA), Pt 1

Leah sits down with Dr. Christopher Parsons of Citizen Lab to dig into the biggest cyber security threats facing Canada in Part 1 of our discussion of the Canadian Cyber Centre’s 2020 National Cyber Threat Assessment (NCTA). Leah and Chris cover threats to critical infrastructure, ransomware, encryption, hackback, online foreign influence and disinformation, and what the NCTA doesn’t say (but should).

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Ep 137 National Security Prosecutions Round-Up

Once again, Leah, Jess and Mike sit down for Part II of catching up of a busy summer of national security criminal cases. They look at: the ongoing case against Cameron Ortis; a guilty plea in a terrorism case out of Kingston (did we ever figure out what that RCMP plane was doing?); and an update in the Via Rail case where the conviction of one of the accused has been successfully appealed. Finally, the gang reflects on what the events of the summer indicate about ongoing violent extremism trends in Canada.

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Leah West
Ep 136 The "Evidence-to-Podcast Dilemma"

After the inevitable “beginning of the academic year” pause, Season 4 of INTREPID continues. In this episode, Leah West, Jess Davies and Mike Nesbitt begin to go through a busy summer’s worth of national security cases. They start with the Abu Huzayfah terrorism hoax charge, then two travel-related cases (resuscitated from 2014!) in Calgary and, briefly, the attempted ricin poisoning of Donald Trump by a Canadian/French citizen.

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Leah West
Ep 135 Muskoka Chair Charter Chats Ch 6 -- Equality Rights and Constitutional Remedies

We’re back with Carissima Mathen and the last of our special summer series of “explainers” on the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Today, Carissima walks us through two last issues: the equality rights in section 15 of the Charter; and the two remedies sections, section 52 of the Constitutional Act 1982 and section 24 of the Charter. The text of these provisions is reproduced below. As noted, this is our last Muskoka Chair chat. We hope people have enjoyed this deep dive into the Charter. Please give us a shout out if so, on iTunes or wherever you listen to your podcasts, and help other people find INTREPID. We’re back after a brief pause for the beginning of the academic year. Thank you for your continued interest.

15. (1) Every individual is equal before and under the law and has the right to the equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination and, in particular, without discrimination based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.

(2) Subsection (1) does not preclude any law, program or activity that has as its object the amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups including those that are disadvantaged because of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, sex, age or mental or physical disability.

24. (1) Anyone whose rights or freedoms, as guaranteed by this Charter, have been infringed or denied may apply to a court of competent jurisdiction to obtain such remedy as the court considers appropriate and just in the circumstances.

(2) Where, in proceedings under subsection (1), a court concludes that evidence was obtained in a manner that infringed or denied any rights or freedoms guaranteed by this Charter, the evidence shall be excluded if it is established that, having regard to all the circumstances, the admission of it in the proceedings would bring the administration of justice into disrepute.

52. (1) The Constitution of Canada is the supreme law of Canada, and any law that is inconsistent with the provisions of the Constitution is, to the extent of the inconsistency, of no force or effect.

(2) The Constitution of Canada includes

(a) the Canada Act 1982, including this Act;

(b) the Acts and orders referred to in the schedule; and

(c) any amendment to any Act or order referred to in paragraph (a) or (b).

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Ep 134 Muskoka Chair Charter Chats Ch 5: (Most of) The Legal Rights

We’re back with chapter 5 of our Muskoka Chair Chats on the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. In this episode, Carissima Mathen from the Faculty of Law, University of Ottawa, guides us through the Charter “legal rights”, with a focus on sections 9 to 14 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. She also examines some of the controversies that have arisen from recent Supreme Court cases on these matters.

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Ep 133 Composing the Security and Intelligence Community Pt 3: Canadian Security Intelligence Service

Stephanie and Craig are back with the third part in the INTREPID special series on diversity and inclusion in Canada’s security and intelligence community. They are very pleased to welcome to the show Michelle Tessier, Deputy Director of Operations, at the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service (CSIS). We discuss Ms Tessier’s career, and her experience and views on the significance of diversity and inclusion for a largely HUMINT-oriented intelligence service like CSIS. As always with guests, we end with a “day in the life” and career advice. Thank you to Michelle Tessier for joining us on the show.

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Ep 132 China's Tendrils -- Foreign State Harrassment within Canada

This spring, Amnesty International issued an updated report on Chinese harassment of Chinese human rights critics in Canada. This report and accompanying issues were featured last week in the Globe and Mail. Joining Stephanie and Craig to discuss the report and the issue of Chinese-sponsored harassment are Alex Neve, Secretary-General of Amnesty Canada, and Chemi Lhamo, 2019 student president at the University of Toronto's Scarborough campus. Chemi describes harassment and threats of violence she experienced, as a Canadian of Tibetan origin, during her period in student government — conduct she believes was orchestrated by China. Alex describes the more general pattern of suspected Chinese government harassment activities within Canada, directed at those who oppose the Chinese government’s human rights record and other authoritarian policies. Both guests call for closer attention to this issue by Canadian authorities, and end by describing the recommendations made in the Amnesty report. Thank you to Chemi and Alex for joining us on the podcast.

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Ep 131 A Q&A on QAnon

In just a few years the QAnon movement has gone from a fringe online conspiracy theory to a movement that is now present in up to 54 countries worldwide. Given its links to several attempted attacks, there is growing concern that QAnon may be inspiring some individuals to mobilize to violence. But is QAnon really a national security threat? If so, what should be done about it? To find out more, Jessica Davis sits down with Amarnath Amarsingam and Marc-André Argentino to discuss their recent CTC Sentinel Paper , “The QAnon Conspiracy Theory: A Security Threat in the Making?” They discuss who is in QAnon, its rapid spread, why it is different from previous popular conspiracy theories and how authorities should handle a growing phenomenon that does not fit our conventional understandings of political extremism.

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Jessica Davis
Ep 130 The Not So Safe Third Country

We’re back with an episode focusing on a recent development: the Federal Court’s holding that the “safe third country” refugee agreement with the United States is unconstitutional. In fact, it violates section 7 of the Charter — the very right we explored on Chapter 4 of our Muskoka Chair Chats in Ep 129. (Listeners may want to listen to that explainer first). Here, Jamie Liew from the Faculty of Law, uOttawa takes us through how the refugee law system works at both the international and domestic level, including in relation to some security issues. She then describes the operations of the “safe third party” agreement with the United States — and why it created the so-called irregular border crossing phenomena much in the news a few years back. Then, she walks us through the Federal Court decision and what it means. This is an excellent primer on a topic we have mentioned from time to time on this podcast series — refugee law — but not fully discussed. Hoping everyone gets as much from the discussion with Jamie as we did. The Federal Court decision is here.

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Ep 129 Muskoka Chair Chats Chapter 4 -- Life, Liberty and Security of the Person

We’re back with Carissima Mathen in our “Muskoka Chair Charts,” our summer series on the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Today’s topic is section 7 of the Charter, a major right with huge implications in national security space and elsewhere. We walk through when section 7 is “triggered” — the concepts of life, liberty, or security of the person — and then the accompanying concept of “fundamental justice”. Section 7 reads: “Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of the person and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice.”

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Ep 128 Muskoka Chair Chats Chapter 3 - The Fundamental Freedoms

We’re back with the next chapter in our summer series, Muskoka Chair Chats on the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. This week Carissima Mathen walks us through section 2 of the Charter, guaranteeing “fundamental freedoms”. Most of our conversation is on freedom of expression, and we discuss what limits exist in section 2 itself on speech before discussing how a constraint on speech in the Criminal Code’s key hate crimes provision survived constitutional challenge on section 1 grounds, in the Supreme Court’s decision in Keegstra. Then we end the conversation with a quick look at another section 2 right: freedom of religion.

We hope people are enjoying this special series. If you are, let us know wherever you rate your podcast series.

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Craig Forcese
Ep 127 Muskoka Chair Chats Chapter 2 -- The Application of the Charter

We’re back with our second episode in our special “explainer” series on the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. In this episode, Carissima Mathen guides us those the application of the Charter; that is, where it applies, and more particularly, where it does not apply. And we also discuss the degree to which the Charter is an absolute guarantor of rights, by focusing on two sections on either end of the Charter: section 1 and section 33. We’re always pleased to hear from listeners who find our various explainer series useful listening. Stay tuned for another several episodes as we march through the content of the Charter.

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Ep 126 Muskoka Chair Chats Chapter 1 -- The Charter Origin Story

As promised, A Podcast Called INTREPID is pleased to launch our second “context-builder” special series. Fresh on the heels of Her Majesty in Right of Pod, we are pleased to start our primer series on the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Scheduled for summertime listening, we are calling this one “Muskoka Chair Chats”. Our co-host for this series is Carissima Mathen, from the University of Ottawa Faculty of Law, and co-author, most recently, of a new book on the infamous Supreme Court appointment controversy six years ago, The Tenth Justice.

In this inaugural episode, we build our foundation: this is the “origin story” of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. We discuss why Canada finally, more than a century after its first codification of constitutional law, decided to embed human rights into its written constitution in 1982. Stay tuned for our continuing series through this summer.

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Episode 125: Being Candid on the Duty of Candour (A quick take on the Federal Court Decision)

On 16 July the Federal Court released a long rumoured decision on CSIS operations. While many of the legal issues raised in the case have been resolved as a result of Bill C-59, the decision noted a number of other issues that raise questions about relations between the Service, the Federal Court and the Department of Justice. The Intrepid Gang discuss what happened and why, why CSIS officers need some kind of immunity (and bemoan that it took so long to get it), the duty of candor and some of our early big picture take-aways. This is a topic to which we will certainly return to in the future.

Please note, on the same day it was announced that in response to the decision, the Justice and Public Safety Ministers asked NSIRA to conduct a review of both Justice Canada and CSIS Canada to be conducted by former Supreme Court Justice Marie Deschamps and Professor Craig Forcese. Although a founding member of Intrepid, Craig Forcese has entirely recused himself from any commentary, discussion, or observations in relation to this issue at this time and was in no way involved in the production of this podcast. (Blame all mistakes on Stephanie)

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Stephanie Carvin
Ep 124 Composing the Security and Intelligence Community Pt 2: Communications Security Establishment

Leah West and Craig Forcese are back with a second episode in the INTREPID special series on diversity and inclusion in Canada’s security and intelligence community. They are joined by two fantastic guests from the Communications Security Establishment: Artur Wilczynski, Associate Deputy Chief SIGINT, & Nabih Eldebs, Director General of Policy, Disclosure and Review. After discussing Artur and Nabih’s careers, we focus on the significance of diversity and inclusion for a foreign intelligence and cybersecurity organization like CSE. Thank you to Artur and Nabih for coming on the show.

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Ep 123 Composing the Security and Intelligence Community, Pt 1 The NSICoP Review

In this episode we launch the first of our “Composing the Security and Intelligence Community” discussions on diversity in the S&I community. This topic was a focus of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians 2019 annual report, released in March 2020. Joining us to discuss its findings are David McGuinty, chair of NSICoP, Rennie Marcoux, executive director, and Stephanie LeSaux-Farmer, the lead analyst on the review.

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Ep 122 Her Majesty in Right of Pod -- The World Turned Upside Down

On this episode of Intrepid Podcast — Her Majesty in Right of Pod, Phil Lagassé returns to discuss the role of parliament in a pandemic. First, Craig provides an update from our last episode on Canada’s emergency powers and how they are being implemented. Next, the trio discuss the challenge Parliament currently faces: Westminster systems are, by designed to be the opposite of social distancing. So how to manage the practicalities of simply meeting, and the more urgent question of how to manage scrutiny of some very consequential government decisions. Finally, the group talks about alternatives (a unity government? Probably not) and what role the military could realistically play in Canada’s pandemic response.

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Ep 121 An Emergency Podcast on Emergency Law

Stephanie, Craig and Leah West assemble to walk through a range of actual and possible legal responses to COVID-19. We talk: Quarantine Act; Aeronautics Act; provincial public health law; provincial emergency law; federal emergency law; and the deployment of the Canadian Armed Forces. We’re try to guess ahead on what might be coming, as well as looking at what has happened, and talk about some of the (legal) pros and cons. The chapter we mention in the podcast is here: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3554318

Stay healthy everyone!

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An Emergency Broadcast from Your Sponsor, Big Academia

If you came for Canadian national security discussions, hold your horses. We have a lot planned. But right now: this is a special podcast dedicated to our academic colleagues who need to convert all their courses to online on two days notice. In this podcast, Stephanie, Craig and our guests David Hornsby (Associate Vice-President (Teaching and Learning) at Carleton University) and Peter Sankoff (Professor of Law at University of Alberta) assemble their cumulative experience with online teaching and talk tips for online pedagogy and making the most of online tools. We hope this is useful. The online teaching guidance document Craig mentioned, prepared for colleagues at the uOttawa Faculty of Law, is available here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uzvIJsx5K3a4Ntu5ZcAC7iySEZtyt6wh (along with some other resources)

We will be back with regularly scheduled programming soon.

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Ep 120 Ben Makuch and Reporting on the Far Right Threat

Ben Makuch’s reporting on national and international security issues has taken him from Eastern Europe to talking to Canadian foreign fighters to challenging the Canadian government in the Supreme Court over protections for journalists. Over the magic of the internet, Stephanie sits down with Ben and they talk about his latest reporting on far right extremism and white nationalist movements in Canada, the United States, Ukraine and the growing links between these movements. Is law enforcement paying enough attention and are they prepared to take on this threat? This podcast was recorded on 26 February 2020.

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Stephanie Carvin